Dude chatting.

Jane—i have no idea

*Sanders—she has been posting so

Dude—
weird shit lately
just the pics are weird
I don't even have to read much of the text
I did read a bit of one where she referred to Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior
Sanders—weird
Jane eating her soup with droopy eyelids dressed in white pancake makeup and flowing gauzy gown and sacrificing a tv dinner at her pagan altar. Don't forget to use the "special" knife....
that was my post to her, so i have no room to talk

*Dude—lol
that is quite an image...
I like it
Isn't that always the way?
it's in the fools thread
it was lol-worthy!

*Sanders—white pancake and black mascara
Pooh and the thread

*Dude—and ruby red lips, painted over the lines
she will eat the chicken and veggys and the The God gets the browny...

Is that elton john?
:-)

*Sanders—lol
his sister!

*Dude—Nathsty and dithpicable  hehehe

*Sanders—that is Jane - ?

*Sanders—lol
she is the Guru du Jour for the whole JK motion 

Dude—eek

*Sanders—yes...eeeeK
lol
lol

*Dude—What ever happened to Baby Jane?

*Sanders—she's still looking for her buskers and her pink bathing suit

*Jane—Now i'm thinking of Rosemary's Baby

*Sanders—...way too much makeup
that way...with that voice...

*Dude—me is the old crone upstairs, bringing the food

*Dude— dearest
Yes :-)

*Sanders—so don't let Jane send you any funny messages

Dude—just sayin', if she offers a message i would not laugh at it
I would say im not reading this thanks...way ahead of you on that stuff!

*Sanders—whew...
hello Jane

Hi Dude
back to the forum 

Dude—anyway....

*Sanders—ok, take care
Pooh—bye

*Sanders—bye
Pooh—Hi Dude.

*Sanders—by saying Sanders is offensive 

Dude—so we all do this...we all find ways to side step
(ponders this, to see if I can recall the last time I did it)

*Sanders—I'm going to be watching for this...
to see how I side step
skyguy would say it is when I stop chatting
when I say "I will just listen from here"
he wants to tellmewho I am, and lecturemeabout it
he says that when I refuse to do this, I am avoiding
and that would be a side step
we side step to avoid
so what am I avoiding?
he seems to feel he is going to reveal me

Dude—is that even possible?
where do people get this notion?

the assumptions some of us make are so antiquated
it is hard to understand how delayed development is in some areas of the world it's like talking to Fritz, and he is in the next day already, which seems so odd

 and then you talk to someone like Pooh, or you listen to him talk I should say, and it's like talking to someone from the 19th century
like he is talking from the past
and I am in his future...
lol

*Sanders—people in California have a saying: what we do here today, the rest of the country will be doing tomorrow
people in this country are probably saying that to the rest of the world too...
that what we do here today will be done across the world tomorrow
western culture does seem to be slowly seeping into the cultures around the globe
and the U.S. does sit like a huge pimple on top of western culture

*Sanders—this is an interesting dichotomy that has developed AMericans are hated, and at the sametime, everybody wants to be one
I don't mean they all want to move to the states, though many do
I mean they want the status of the state they see as "AMerican"
they want to exist in that so-called freedom
like Juvenal, we don't want to change the system so much as we want to have all the stuff it offers those at the top
let a poor man win the lottery and he has nothing against the rich any longer...

*Sanders—hello Pablo
welcome to the chat!

*Sanders—was it something I typed?
(giggles)

*Sanders—hello

*Sanders—wb Jane

*Sanders—hello skyguy
skyguy—lo there

*Sanders—K said: "conventional education makes independent thinking extremely difficult"

*Sanders—hello Mole

*Sanders—hullo Rat
skyguy
yes conventional education is about conformity i.e a standardised person not a person..

*Sanders—hello Dude

*Dude—funning going back and looking at the archives, the deleted accounts have disappeared and you can't see what the person had writ then
only the answers

*Sanders—the statement that comes from goes on to say: Conformity leads to Mediocrity.

*Dude—oh im sorry was i interrupting something

*Sanders—no you aren't interrupting

*Dude—i was looking for a certain blog i wrote

*Sanders—did you find it?

*Dude—yes i did, its badly chopped up
no wonder i started monitoring my threads
no one ever criticizesmefor the editing which is a new one on me, time was the only thing i got for my writings was the professors opinions

*Sanders—hello Ken

*Sanders—hello kitty
hello Rev.Chatman, Dennis
hi iLog

*Sanders—hello JD
hello again Rev.Chatman

Rev.Chatman—hi

*Sanders—hello someone
hello anyone
9:21 PM

*Sanders—hello bLogger

*Sanders—hello MommabLogger—hello Sanders

Dude—here you are

*Sanders—here you are noticing that here I am

*Dude—dudarina

*Sanders—DudeMeister

*Dude—dudely

*Sanders—Dudezilla

*Dude—LOL
dude.ish.

*Sanders—dudeism
meology

*Dude—mate

*Sanders—dudeianity

*Dude—chum

*Sanders—dudelam

*Dude—pal

*Sanders—the Dude abides...

*Dude—budz

*Sanders—"friendly, but not friends"
"friends, but not friendly"

*Dude—broz Dude

*Sanders—dudeative
dudelationship

*Dude—dudehood

*Dude—dudendom

*Sanders—the united dudes of dudeville

*Dude—LOL

*Sanders—Dudericans

*Dude—darling
dear
snookums
boo

*Sanders—sweetie pie

*Dude—hun
spouse
iPod

*Sanders—bane of my life...
ball and chain

*Dude—song of my heart
the bop in my bop shoo bop shoo bop

*Sanders—free at last, free at last...

*Dude—got the keys to the Mercedes

*Sanders—don't fence Dude in

*Dude—good to go
the knees of bees
the pajamas of cats

*Sanders—the elbows of trees

*Dude—the 23rd skidoo

*Sanders—shit from shinola

*Dude—the home of happy
the light of star

*Sanders—the dark of night
the brownie in a tv dinner

*Dude—starlight in the nightdark and the sunplace returns

*Sanders—let's worship the sun
we can fret all night about whether it will rise

*Dude—goodaySUNshine

*Sanders—whether we pleased it enough to return

*Dude—i need to laugh

*Sanders—I will offer you as a sacrifice to the sun

*Dude—i have something to laugh about when the sun is out

*Sanders—we don't have to kill you; Me will just slap you around
that should do

*Dude—your such a guy

*Sanders—I am not a guy!

*Dude—you talk like one

*Sanders—my dad used to say that to

Dude!
he also said: you think like a man

*Dude—runawayANIMA

*Sanders—DudeDad

*Dude—of course

*Sanders—but I am just a very strong woman

*Dude—you call that just?

*Sanders—I had a great idea the other day...

*Dude—not another one!

*Sanders—now that I am getting older, I came up with a plan for robbing a bank
and getting away with it

*Dude—impassable

*Sanders—I will take some testosterone until I grow a moustache, then disguised as a guy, I will rob a bank then I will shave, and stop taking the hormone...and voila! I am a woman again and no one will ever know it was me

Dude—very Shakespearean of you
Cordelia

*Sanders—did they take a lot of hormones back then?

*Dude—they drank a lot of small beer

*Sanders—small beer...

*Dude—it was cleaner than water

*Sanders—what is small beer?

*Dude—i believe it is lager
in America, every mudroom had a keg
they opened the top and dipped in it
this is really why Prohibition happened
the argument was quite strong 

Dude.you’re.drunk. 
when you think what it would take for Congress to outlaw alcohol now
it’s certainly impossible

yet it was possible

becuase it was actually done so government will go its own lengths expediently
if you look at it closely it is more to keep power than to help us
—i am making a documentary about making a documentary
in every scene the filmmaker has a different assistant

*Dude—Rev.Chatman? I never approve of brazenly sexist comments..  flagrant foul

The office of Dude affairs will get a report. 

*bLogger—which were these, hi guys (gals)

*bLogger—The use of the pejorative as a platform of the narrative.. perhaps?

*Dude—right right right
it was built into the language
what was the narrative?
mankind is my favorite subject

*bLogger—ok. but it was you who reminded us of the use of "she" when "they, them, all would be more correct. For which i am not ungrateful in fact.

*Dude—personne
no one and everyone

*bLogger—yep that'l do but how to fit it in a sentence? Dudette.

*Dude—checkmate

*bLogger—buddy, champ

*Dude—tis beauty's self she is

*bLogger—much ado about bugger all

*Dude—lol
daftPRICK

*bLogger—somewhat intelligent

*Dude—the first time i heard that was on a bus going up to Yorkshire, no one in Merica ever says that
ever

*bLogger—daft or prick

*Dude—preceded by YUH
the whole thing it sounded like ... oh shut up yuhDaftPRICK

*bLogger—you got it

*Dude—they were obvious constant bus companions
just adoreable
never a nice word to say im sure
i used to worry a great deal about the kids being unkind to each other ... and they assured me they knew meant to do that

*bLogger—only the poms and the aussies have made "taking the piss" into an art form of language

*Dude—it definitely has caught on amoung these our kidses

Methings started early with them
i hadn't seen much of it in my culture
Catholic school kids are actually insulted if you are unkind to them.

*bLogger—we know how to insult friends and neighbors whilst having a convivial beer

Dude—at one point all the jocks started calling each other by their mother's Christian names—that was their idea of joking
bLogger—you get top marks from peers re. your insult creativity

*Dude—i remember their mother's names as well as i remember their's ... it seems a funny thing to know
the first names of your schoolmate's moms

*bLogger—we are happy enough to refer to blokes disparagingly as "you girl"

*Dude—yeah?

bLogger—that borders on fighting words
10:47 PM

*bLogger—Jane looking on, not speaking to Sanders (as of a few days ago) lol

*Sanders—he said never again...
she will never speak to me again

Dude—tis a pity

*bLogger—yeah, but one cant endlessly look and hold the tongue?

*Dude—one could
why couldn't one?

*Sanders—it will be a challenge, but she can chat with others
so it's not like total silence

*bLogger—like a monk in the monstrocity

*Dude—i read the challenge blog
was there a challenge blog?
or was it a challenge comment?

bLogger—fill me in
 
Dude—comments tell the story
all the trolls and the tools
it is a classic demonstration of why the thing had to be writ in the first place
10:52 PM

*bLogger—i have been dropping in only occasionally so I am not up to speed on wots happnen

*Sanders—well, I told her to "kiss my ass" and she said I had to apologize or she would never speak to me again

*Dude—Do you go to The Forum

*Sanders—since to"kiss my ass" just meant "I am not interested" I did not see a need to apologize
so she has stopped talking to me

Dude—let's see, what else has gone on...

Dude—i don't go to The Forum but i found out about it from Sandy slash Jane

Sanders—I am not fit to be here
Paul says I am affronted by my own affrontery
but I don't really get what that means.

Dude—Paul is way too certain in his mind. It's exasperating not arguing with him.

*Sanders—I don't like the jisan slash jane

*bLogger—Well, no need to get upset with "kiss my ass" , some may regard that as an invitation to bliss

*Sanders—thats a bit too close for comfort...I did not think it was anything bad...
but apparently cussing is not allowed on a JK site
according to the soi-disant “guidelines...”

Dude—Jane just doesn't appreciate your candour.

bLogger—hmm, well rules are pretty flexible here

*Sanders—she definitely doesn't appreciate my use of language
there are "guidelines", not rules

Dude—yes that's what i meant

*Sanders—Eric is a gentle leader...

*Dude—The EricMeMEISTER

*Sanders—but I am not an excessive cusser
so I am not concerned
I use cuss words when they fit

*Dude—it's not the cussing, it's that he can't win

*Sanders—just as I use other words
and I will continue
ah, the can't win....
that is his problem
I can't help him with that...
lol

*bLogger—Should the F word now be used in everyday language like eat or sleep. theres a question?

*Sanders—who cares?
if it fits in everyday language
then yes, use it
it is part of the language that I grew up with and it often fits

*bLogger—i dont know, and i am unsure!

*Sanders—it is a very useful word
I will join and be unsure too
who cares?
I care about being honest
about being me and not pretending to be so

Meone else
or to behave a certain way in order to fit in

*bLogger—thats what i am asking, who cares?

*Sanders—I don't think we should run around in public places slapping people

*bLogger—ok

*Sanders—but I don't care if people findmeodd or different

*bLogger—ok

*Sanders—especially in the use of language

*bLogger—go on

*Sanders—language is a living, flowing thing
cuss words are a great test for people who claim to be living in the present

*Dude—i find i know when NOT to use the F bomb

*Sanders—to object, to say they are immoral, is to comefrom the past
to say that anyone who uses a cuss word has to be uneducated, is to comefrom the past

*Dude—and people have asked Me not to use it before bless their hearts
bLogger—but i wonder if it is wise or even useful or is it just convenient?\

*Sanders—wise or useful or convenient to use a word?

*Dude—the word survives through centuries
when others have long since gone the way of unused words

*Sanders—it depends on whether your use of it is honest

*Sanders—in south boston it dominates
so there is no telling
children learn to have fun with it because it pops out of their little mouth and all the adults burst out laughing loud

*bLogger—"to say that anyone who uses a cuss word has to be uneducated, is from the past" I am not sure that the future is defined in any way at all by theses sort of words?

Sanders—that is not the point
to say that anyone who uses a cuss word comes from the past, because otherwise the anyone part would not be there
this decision is made from experience
and drawn from meification 

*bLogger—isnt it aggressive ? loaded with aggression?

*Sanders—what?

*bLogger—just asking

*Sanders—language?
it can be

*Sanders—fuck

*bLogger—the f word and similar

*Sanders—you think the word fuck is loaded with aggression?
is that the question?

*Sanders—a child will find it to be comical, they use it and people laugh

*bLogger—maybe with love?

*Sanders—i first read it at the bus stop on west jefferson

*Sanders—complete sentences would help to understand you...

*Sanders—what is this word?

*bLogger—good question

*Sanders—what word?

*Sanders—a verb followed by a pronoun

*Sanders—ok you have lostmeso I will just listen

*bLogger—is it different to say...nigger

*Sanders—someused the word fuckery on twitter
what is this fuckery? she asked
she was applying for grad school
and had to pay for each app
we have to pay to try to maybe be accepted
fuckery sounds like a good word for it

*Sanders—it is very different and it is hard to accept that as a serious question bLogger...
I like fuckery; that is a good word
useful

*Sanders—right?!

*bLogger—i know its different but my concern is the inherent aggression contained therein.

*Sanders—i am reminded of my Dad who never used the word fuck through my entire childhood and used it regularly in my adulthood

*Sanders—there is no inherent aggression contained therein

*Sanders—i think he might have been restraining himself
so he definitely was withholding the language from the child

*Sanders—for uses such as "I am going to fuck you up" the word fuck isn't by far the  most aggressive, in most uses it is emphasis

Excited State University

Sanders—it expresses frustration  it is used in many ways, and few have anything to do with aggression

*Sanders—as far as Dad was concerned he didn't want his little girls to hear it come out of his mouth
and we didn't
we found out it was a rich part of his vocabulary when we grew up

*bLogger—but the wall of unsuitability is being dismantled. Whats next, words like C..., being part of the everyday lexicon?

*Sanders—what cookies?

*Sanders—lol

*bLogger—ha ha

*Sanders—it is part of the language today bLogger...

*Sanders—when i was a very very small girl there was a child whose nickname was Cooky. 

Sanders—what is this everyday lexicon?

*Sanders—that was 50 years ago

*Sanders—language is language

*bLogger—ah, thats the point S
but why

*Sanders—you are thinking in terms of the 19th century
because language is a living flowing thing
it grows with us

*Sanders—but the kids didn't say fuck at all

*Sanders—it doesn’t stay the same

Sanders—as far as i knew, my Dad never said it at all. 

bLogger—if it cant be used in front of small kids why should it be everyday lingo?

*Sanders—nigga used to worry me a Lot, but now am someone’s

bLogger—Top o the marning to yez ladys.

*Sanders—lmao

*Sanders—still wouldn't have one of my own though

*Sanders—I am not interested in changing your view of language bLogger—

*Sanders—i wouldn't feel comfortable dubbing some one my nigga, but i LOVE being dubbed someone’s

bLogger—am Someone's too

*Sanders—but I don't see that it can't be used
regardless of who is present

*bLogger—ok

*Sanders—that is just more 19th century nonsense
but you are not alone
in fact, I am sure you are in the majority
I am the odd one out, so to speak
I am comfortable with that however

*bLogger—I am no prude thats for sure, but i just question it, thats all

*Sanders—and you are not alone
but I see language differently
the majority would agree with you
and they would put the word fuck at the top of the forbidden word list
and many other words would join it

*bLogger—so, you see it as breaking ground?

*Sanders—no...
what is breaking ground?

*bLogger—the use of uncommon language

*Sanders—what is uncommon about it?
it is the most common of language

*bLogger—at least what was uncommon

*Sanders—vulgar even
it is not uncommon
that is my point
it is most common
the deletion of these words occurred uptown
the streets know this word
and have for a long ti

Sanders—it is very common language

*bLogger—so, is it liberating for you?

*Sanders—no...
why would it be liberating?
that makes no sense

*bLogger—just a question?
exploring

*Sanders—liberation from what?

*bLogger—the strait jacket of culture and language

*Sanders—lol
I am not wearing any such strait jacket
never have
so no, it isn't liberating
it is just useful language
it has it's place

*bLogger—not you specifically, you the greater group?

*Sanders—I can't speak for any greater group
I can speak to my use of language
and I use the language that I find useful

*bLogger—i was asking your opinion or view

*Sanders—my opinion of what?
you are asking if I think a greater group would find the word fuck liberating?
what greater group are you referring to?

*bLogger—the mainstream, everyone

*Sanders—I don't see how the word has anything to do with liberation
it is just a word

*Sanders—
this cake is good, will you have a piece? 
i can scrape off the sugar butter on top

*bLogger—Me neither but it was a thread to explore, that’s all
11:22 PM

*bLogger—anyway, lets get off it. So is Jane asleep?
hi Jane

*Sanders—Any Messages you wish me to pass on to Sanders?!

SDS
pass on it

Sanders—? lol
11:23 PM

*bLogger—time to be free

Sanders— to feed my fish

*Sanders—yeah...get off it bLogger...
lol
just kidding